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Twinfan
09-27-2009, 02:24 PM
Anyone else annoyed with the 25th models getting the Eagle headstock? I liked having something different on my ME but it won't be so different any more :(

The Private Stock guys must be unhappy too?

Halsey
09-27-2009, 02:29 PM
At least yours aren't plastic! ;)

Twinfan
09-27-2009, 02:31 PM
True, true :D

Still sucks though...

Serious_Poo
09-27-2009, 02:52 PM
And some private stock owners probably felt the same about the ME's. It's all relative.

mindseye
09-27-2009, 03:04 PM
So the 25th guitars inlay is plastic??
No thats just gotta be wrong............

buickrob
09-27-2009, 03:11 PM
So the 25th guitars inlay is plastic??
No thats just gotta be wrong............

Plastic isn't a PRS inlay material:). Say it ain't so!

gag halfrunt
09-27-2009, 03:15 PM
So the 25th guitars inlay is plastic??
No thats just gotta be wrong............

I was thinking the same thing.

Halsey
09-27-2009, 03:30 PM
I don't know for sure! Some have speculated in other threads, so I was just going off of that. I mean, it's really white and really black, and I don't know what else is that white!

boardwlk17
09-27-2009, 03:47 PM
this is what the neck guy said
It’s a new material similar to Formica looks cool to me

Joe_Steeler
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
If they look good and have zero effect on the tone, what is the matter?
Are we getting tooooooo...... demanding on our underwear fabric?

buickrob
09-27-2009, 03:55 PM
If they look good and have zero effect on the tone, what is the matter?
Are we getting tooooooo...... demanding on our underwear fabric?

PRS are high end guitars in my book and plastic headstock inlays doesn't fit the bill. I think it is fair to be demanding if you are spending $4,500 on an ME2 or ME3.

Halsey
09-27-2009, 04:01 PM
Like a marshmallow!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3432/3955059638_180ddf7671.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2489/3952481660_b3e753714d.jpg

(John G.'s pics from Flickr.)

Joe_Steeler
09-27-2009, 04:03 PM
PRS are high end guitars in my book and plastic headstock inlays doesn't fit the bill. I think it is fair to be demanding if you are spending $4,500 on an ME2 or ME3.

I am not not going to argue with you on the price tag, however, have you given consideration to the high $5k-$6k price tag on Fender CS Strats or Gibson Historics? I mean talk about plastic within the bill of materials.
Those Strats and Gibbies are not even near the craftmanship of a PRS. 'Nuff said.

I believe, no joke here, the high end guitar industry is heading for a crash proportional to the housing industry.
Don't believe me? ask Alan Greenspan about the next economic crash.

Things are getting out of control, EVERYWHERE.

BostonGuitar
09-27-2009, 04:05 PM
I am not not going to argue with you on the price tag, however, have you given consideration to the high $5k-$6k price tag on Fender CS Strats or Gibson Historics? I mean talk about plastic within the bill of materials.
Those Strats and Gibbies are not even near the craftmanship of a PRS. 'Nuff said.

I believe, no joke here, the high end guitar industry is heading for a crash proportional to the housing industry.
Don't believe me? ask Alan Greenspan about the next economic crash.

Things are getting out of control, EVERYWHERE.

Joe,

Is it me, or do you like to stir the pot? You may be right about what you speak, but you tend to raise very provocative points, bro... :o

Joe_Steeler
09-27-2009, 04:13 PM
Joe,

Is it me, or do you like to stir the pot? You may be right about what you speak, but you tend to raise very provocative points, bro... :o

Not at all man, not at all.

I mean it when I say what is the matter with the material.

However, the Engineer within me tends to look at the practicality of things and having manufacturing experience doesn't help.
Like many things in life, there are two sides to each coin. The OP may have a slight point although nobody is pointing a gun to his head to buy a 25th Anny Axe. But reality and perception are indeed reality in a lot of cases.

I think a Rasberry MEIII, with binding and plastic eagle or not, is calling my name like a date on Saturday night!!! :D

SamK
09-27-2009, 04:27 PM
While I like that the Eagle headstocks are available on more guitars, it is somewhat disappointing that they are changing the quality of the inlay. I'd rather them keep it exclusive if they need to watch costs in order to keep the material top notch.

buickrob
09-27-2009, 04:55 PM
I am not not going to argue with you on the price tag, however, have you given consideration to the high $5k-$6k price tag on Fender CS Strats or Gibson Historics? I mean talk about plastic within the bill of materials.
Those Strats and Gibbies are not even near the craftmanship of a PRS. 'Nuff said.

I believe, no joke here, the high end guitar industry is heading for a crash proportional to the housing industry.
Don't believe me? ask Alan Greenspan about the next economic crash.

Things are getting out of control, EVERYWHERE.

There is a reason I don't spend that kind of money on Gibson's anymore. Quality of material and craftsmanship at PRS is way better and that's why I always come back. There are really great Gibsons and Fenders out there but when it comes to the price I'd rather have a PRS.

Lower quality materials would certaintly change that perception of mine.

As for where the market for high end guitars is going, I haven't a clue or a care:D. I don't make them or sell them for a living so I won't even bite off a piece of that issue:)

10-top
09-27-2009, 07:01 PM
If they look good and have zero effect on the tone, what is the matter?
Are we getting tooooooo...... demanding on our underwear fabric?

If they are using cheaper materials and charging more money as prices naturally increase then you are getting less for your dollar plus it looks cheesy, just like on any other guitar- high end or not!

strumbringer
09-27-2009, 07:14 PM
If they are using cheaper materials and charging more money as prices naturally increase then you are getting less for your dollar plus it looks cheesy, just like on any other guitar- high end or not!

There's a restaurant near my place that my wife and I used to love. The food has always been good, and the prices, while not cheap, were on the high side of reasonable. It was never "hopping" but it was full (or close to it) every Friday night. This wasn't a fancy joint, just a local eatery.

Then they started making the portions smaller. Fewer and fewer people go there. So now, it takes longer to prepare the food (since they had a small menu, service used to be quite fast).

Today we drove by there, and we thought we'd stop in for lunch. Then we remembered we'd probably end up wanting more food given their new portion sizes, and it would take an hour and a half to eat. So we gave it a miss and ate at the diner next door. Used to eat there several times a month, now it's been more than six months since we went there.

So it goes, I suppose. The risk of change is losing what made you special and alienating your customers.

buickrob
09-27-2009, 07:29 PM
So you'll still buy a $4,500 guitar if it is made of lesser quality parts but if your $35 steak goes from 14 to 10 ounces you won't eat it anymore.

You seem to be arguing both sides of the issue here.

Meat isn't such a huge financial decision. Give me the 10 ounce steak and mother of pearl or abalone for my inlays.


I'm in for a 25th Soapie Mira but wouldn't want those inlays on a more expensive guitar.

LDS22
09-27-2009, 07:30 PM
i like pumpkin pie...

strumbringer
09-27-2009, 07:40 PM
So you'll still buy a $4,500 guitar if it is made of lesser quality parts but if your $35 steak goes from 14 to 10 ounces you won't eat it anymore.

You seem to be arguing both sides of the issue here.

Meat isn't such a huge financial decision. Give me the 10 ounce steak and mother of pearl or abalone for my inlays.


I'm in for a 25th Soapie Mira but wouldn't want those inlays on a more expensive guitar.

Actually, I won't do either.

I'm not arguing both sides of the issue - I'm defending PRS' decision to make changes and I see the rationale behind it. However, I don't agree with the implementation, and I think they're risking alienating us by changing what makes them special. Change isn't always good.

FWIW, I'm not interested in paying over $4K for (what IMO is) a tacky looking mass-produced guitar, period, and I agree wholeheartedly with the opinion that the 25th anniv electrics are a step in the wrong direction. Obviously others disagree. Since I want PRS to be around for a long time to come, I hope that we're in the minority - but I suspect we aren't.

FrankiePRS
09-27-2009, 07:47 PM
Wow. What exactly do you guys think the stick-on headstock sig logo is made of? Real gold?? Why would anyone care what material a logo is made of? I'm guessing the 25th anni eagle costs more to produce than the standard logo, but even if it didn't, it's supposed to designate a special time.

I'm pretty sure the 'AMG' logo on a 120k Supercharged Benz is just chromed pot metal. Jeez...

buickrob
09-27-2009, 07:48 PM
Guess I got the wrong vibe from your first post then, my bad.

I'll buy the pie at the diner :)

FrankiePRS
09-27-2009, 07:48 PM
i like pumpkin pie...

I don't, and you're a jerk for thinking that.

buickrob
09-27-2009, 07:51 PM
Wow. What exactly do you guys think the stick-on headstock sig logo is made of? Real gold?? Why would anyone care what material a logo is made of? I'm guessing the 25th anni eagle costs more to produce than the standard logo, but even if it didn't, it's supposed to designate a special time.

I'm pretty sure the 'AMG' logo on a 120k Supercharged Benz is just chromed pot metal. Jeez...

I completely hear you and maybe the headstock inlay/decal is not as good an example as the shadow birds. Those are a downgrade in materials compared to paua J birds no?

Couldn't make it again this year so I need something to talk about here :)

Ryan32
09-27-2009, 08:45 PM
i like them! and i like the shadowed birds too!

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt124/TripleB32/Experience%20PRS%202009/DSC02399.jpg

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt124/TripleB32/Experience%20PRS%202009/DSC02398.jpg

Daniel
09-27-2009, 09:04 PM
WTF? I'm a bit confused by the complaints. The 25th Ann inlay is different than the ME inlay which is nothing anywhere close to a PS headstock inlay. So far as cost, well, I don't know more about that than anyone else here but don't ya'll know the inlays have been abalam for a good while? Abalam is w-a-y cheaper than real (solid shell) abalone but I haven't heard anyone complain about that (oops). Is this white material any cheaper than abalam? I think the 25th Ann. headstock inlay looks pretty cool and I'm POSITIVE it costs a shitload more than a foil decal.

Wow. What exactly do you guys think the stick-on headstock sig logo is made of? Real gold?? Why would anyone care what material a logo is made of? I'm guessing the 25th anni eagle costs more to produce than the standard logo, but even if it didn't, it's supposed to designate a special time.

I'm pretty sure the 'AMG' logo on a 120k Supercharged Benz is just chromed pot metal. Jeez...

That AMG logo is chromed.........plastic.

FrankiePRS
09-27-2009, 09:09 PM
That AMG logo is chromed.........plastic.

My bad. :D

fight fan
09-28-2009, 04:44 AM
+ another, i dig them too but i'm crazy that way:)

agee22
10-01-2009, 08:19 PM
I think they look very cool!!!!!

PRSHB2
10-01-2009, 08:37 PM
From a PS viewpoint. No worries here, to me they're not even something that you would compare.

http://www.fredandruby.com/photos/541800238_Wbv2A-XL.jpg

fwarhola
10-01-2009, 09:07 PM
i like pumpkin pie...

with or without vanilla ice cream/whip cream thing?

PRSOPHILE
10-02-2009, 05:23 AM
or girls!

WTF! It's a headstock inlay! Better than a stick-on decal! Besides, it's PRS' way of celebrating their 25th. So why not make the 25th Ann guitars a bit more special but not price them out of the budgets of the masses?

I own PS #278, 2 10th Anns, and will be picking up 2 25th Anns (Mira 245 Soapy, and ME III NF), having Shadow'd Headstock Eagles on those two doesn't bother me in the least. Some of you guys/girls act like you just got kicked in the groin or something. Well, you didn't. Now walk it off, your pain is in you head.:)

Grapeshot
10-02-2009, 05:49 AM
I don't care what's on the headstock. All I care about is MIRA 245 SOAPBAR!!!!! :dude:

droptop
10-02-2009, 05:56 AM
Word has it he makes his picks out of plastic. WTF!!!:D

phretbored
10-02-2009, 06:15 AM
I think they are way cool in a 25th Anniversary kind of way.

Regardless of the opinions for and against the changes I truly believe that once folks start plugging in and playing the new models they will be as impressed with PRS as ever.

Change is good it keeps things interesting.

Twinfan
10-02-2009, 06:31 AM
Some of you guys/girls act like you just got kicked in the groin or something. Well, you didn't. Now walk it off, your pain is in you head.:)

As the original poster, I'm guessing this is aimed at least partly at me. As this is a PRS discussion forum, I'm discussing an opinion. I don't like the new directions/decisions so I'm voicing my objection.

Regardless of the opinions for and against the changes I truly believe that once folks start plugging in and playing the new models they will be as impressed with PRS as ever.

And therein lies the problem. I won't be hunting anything down to try out as they just don't appeal to me in any way....

PRSOPHILE
10-02-2009, 08:16 AM
As the original poster, I'm guessing this is aimed at least partly at me. As this is a PRS discussion forum, I'm discussing an opinion. I don't like the new directions/decisions so I'm voicing my objection.



And therein lies the problem. I won't be hunting anything down to try out as they just don't appeal to me in any way....


Actually was aimed at anyone who's crying about it. Your opinion is yours to make and that's cool. But, you don't see the headstock while you play do you? If you choose not to purchase a 25th, your choice. Pickup existing dealer stock of old production, or used, or wait a year. I just can't quite grasp why such a big fuss over this. Doesn't change the guitar any does it? Really? Make it play worse? Sound worse? Hmmmm. You tell me.

If it really does bother you that much then don't get one. Really show PRS by voting with your wallet. I did. Both ways.

Twinfan
10-02-2009, 08:45 AM
I think you may be missing the point I'm hamfistedly trying to make :)

PRS have produced guitars previously that were very desirable and they sold, as they should. I'll take one example - 1957/2008 limited editions. Great specs in colour and quilt tops, plus the 57/08 pickups and their 'limited' status.

"Pay the premium price and have something different, especially our new pickups" - that's how the sales speak went.

Then the pickup promotion comes in and ANYONE can get 57/08s when they buy a PRS. Great for a lot of people, not for the guys who bought the 1957/2008 limited editions. They're not quite so special any more, part of the premium price has been negated and they're left with 2 out of the 3 selling points - colour and quilt instead of colour, quilt AND pickups.

You see where I'm coming from? The things that have made previous models 'special' are being filtered down. Eagle headstocks on ME and PS models is just another example.

It's that watering down of the special bits that can upset owners who like having something a bit different (me!) and especially the collectors. Who wants to collect something that everyone else has (or can get) anyway??? It's not really collectible then...

guitarmart
10-02-2009, 08:57 AM
I'm noticing a trend on this forum. Most threads at some point get to one guy who uses the "If you don't like it don't buy it" argument. It's getting a little old. We all KNOW that, but then what's the point of the forum? People get so irritated when others voice their displeasure about a change, but those of us who aren't impressed with the new direction are just trying to make sense of the changing world around us:). We are here to gab with each other, not get shut down.

-Marty

Thomas Hebert
10-02-2009, 09:09 AM
Using terms like 'Sucks' - in the title no less - will not lead to a productive discussion. Maybe some peoples communication skills SUCK. How about that-

strumbringer
10-02-2009, 09:13 AM
I'm noticing a trend on this forum. Most threads at some point get to one guy who uses the "If you don't like it don't buy it" argument. It's getting a little old. We all KNOW that, but then what's the point of the forum? People get so irritated when others voice their displeasure about a change, but those of us who aren't impressed with the new direction are just trying to make sense of the changing world around us:). We are here to gab with each other, not get shut down.

-Marty

+1. Ditto with the argument the visual appeal of the guitar isn't a factor in a purchase decision and that those who think about the appearance of the guitar are somehow not worthy of owning a PRS. Hello?! How many people pay extra for 10-tops and birds?! KQ series?! Is it really too much for someone to ask for when spending $3K and up on an instrument that it's aesthetically pleasing to them? And I can assure you that PRS does actually care about opinions on both sides of the line - those who are dissenting with PRS's direction are actually providing them with valuable input into what their market really wants, in fact even more so than those who think it's all fine and dandy, since the latter group would probably buy pretty much anything that PRS puts out.

Twinfan
10-02-2009, 09:41 AM
Using terms like 'Sucks' - in the title no less - will not lead to a productive discussion. Maybe some peoples communication skills SUCK. How about that-

It was intended as a slightly provactive title to catch peoples eye, make them read my initial post, and to promote discussion. If you read my post, which I'll quote below, you'll see it was communicated as a question:

Anyone else annoyed with the 25th models getting the Eagle headstock? I liked having something different on my ME but it won't be so different any more :(

The Private Stock guys must be unhappy too?

JMintzer
10-02-2009, 09:43 AM
I think you may be missing the point I'm hamfistedly trying to make :)

PRS have produced guitars previously that were very desirable and they sold, as they should. I'll take one example - 1957/2008 limited editions. Great specs in colour and quilt tops, plus the 57/08 pickups and their 'limited' status.

"Pay the premium price and have something different, especially our new pickups" - that's how the sales speak went.

Then the pickup promotion comes in and ANYONE can get 57/08s when they buy a PRS. Great for a lot of people, not for the guys who bought the 1957/2008 limited editions. They're not quite so special any more, part of the premium price has been negated and they're left with 2 out of the 3 selling points - colour and quilt instead of colour, quilt AND pickups.

You see where I'm coming from? The things that have made previous models 'special' are being filtered down. Eagle headstocks on ME and PS models is just another example.

It's that watering down of the special bits that can upset owners who like having something a bit different (me!) and especially the collectors. Who wants to collect something that everyone else has (or can get) anyway??? It's not really collectible then...

But PRS -did- set a precedent by putting an Eagle on the old 10th Anniversary guitar. Remember this?:

http://pic90.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2270/702387/1177171/324517850.jpg

Plus, they put in on the Artist Limited:

http://pic90.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2270/702387/1177197/335873052.jpg

And the Artist IV:

http://pic90.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2270/702387/1177197/324519081.jpg

So, why not put one on the 25th Anniversary? How is it "watering down" anything?

Also, remember that there was more to the 57/08 guitars than the "special color and quilt". The also had a special peruvian mahogany neck wood.

Just pointing out the "less than" obvious...


Jamie

RayRay
10-02-2009, 10:49 AM
Here's the problem from my perspective. Compare Jamie's pics with the 25th Anni inlay. Not even freakin' close in terms of quality and class deserving of the 25th milestone. Personally, I expected something like the Artists or the 10th. Those are special. I thought an etched silver eagle would have been perfect, traditional, and certainly less cartoony. Or a headstock hand-signed in silver. But, it is what it is, and I have no interest. Good for those who do.

I respect the decision of the company to move forward, but for something like the 25th, a little throwback to tradition would make sense. After all, successful history got them where they are today.

Regarding the 57/08 guitars... I don't think the "peruvian mahogany" is enough of a discriminator now to set that run apart from any other run. There's still plenty of those sitting on dealer walls, presumably because 5708s are much more prevalent. It was billed as a "unique opportunity to own a special guitar with very special pickups" ... remember, Paul said they were "$3000 pickups with a free guitar." I know some folks who are pissed about this because they bought into the hype, and now it's really not too special. Now it's just another limited run of the week.


Regardless, congrats on 25 years, PRS. It's an awesome milestone for sure. And it's a pleasure owning both vintage ones and new ones.

clrtxf
10-02-2009, 10:55 AM
Jamie, cut your string ends shorter :p

PRSOPHILE
10-02-2009, 10:59 AM
Ok, let's make this simple so maybe you'll understand:

YOU are NOT the CEO at PRS.

Got that?

Secondly and most importantly:

YOU ARE the CEO of your money.

Simple.

No problem here.



I'll leave you boys and girls to your cry-fest and let your pee & moan in peace.

Have a great day!:dude:

JMintzer
10-02-2009, 11:06 AM
Jamie, cut your string ends shorter :p

I got the guitar that way! I hadn't yet changed the strings! :D


Jamie

JMintzer
10-02-2009, 11:10 AM
Here's the problem from my perspective. Compare Jamie's pics with the 25th Anni inlay. Not even freakin' close in terms of quality and class deserving of the 25th milestone. Personally, I expected something like the Artists or the 10th. Those are special. I thought an etched silver eagle would have been perfect, traditional, and certainly less cartoony. Or a headstock hand-signed in silver. But, it is what it is, and I have no interest. Good for those who do.

No argument here. Personally, I'm not a fan of the 25th Anniversary headstock. So, I doubt I'll be buying one...

I respect the decision of the company to move forward, but for something like the 25th, a little throwback to tradition would make sense. After all, successful history got them where they are today.

Maybe so, maybe not. Time will tell...

Regarding the 57/08 guitars... I don't think the "peruvian mahogany" is enough of a discriminator now to set that run apart from any other run. There's still plenty of those sitting on dealer walls, presumably because 5708s are much more prevalent. It was billed as a "unique opportunity to own a special guitar with very special pickups" ... remember, Paul said they were "$3000 pickups with a free guitar." I know some folks who are pissed about this because they bought into the hype, and now it's really not too special. Now it's just another limited run of the week.

Same as it ever was. Remember when you couldn't buy RP pups, since they were only available in the MEs? Now you can. I doubt that anyone thought that they would never be available, especially after the rave reviews they received...

Regardless, congrats on 25 years, PRS. It's an awesome milestone for sure. And it's a pleasure owning both vintage ones and new ones.

:dude::dude::dude:


Jamie

JMintzer
10-02-2009, 11:12 AM
Ok, let's make this simple so maybe you'll understand:

YOU are NOT the CEO at PRS.

Got that?

Secondly and most importantly:

YOU ARE the CEO of your money.

Simple.

No problem here.



I'll leave you boys and girls to your cry-fest and let your pee & moan in peace.

Have a great day!:dude:

Ed,

I have -ZERO- issues with people opining on their dislike of certain things. Just like Lochrian's post. Polite, well thought out. Agree or disagree, no problem. Just do it politely...


Jamie

P.S. And that goes both ways...;)

RayRay
10-02-2009, 11:21 AM
Ed,

I have -ZERO- issues with people opining on their dislike of certain things. Just like Lochrian's post. Polite, well thought out. Agree or disagree, no problem. Just do it politely...


Jamie

P.S. And that goes both ways...;)

Jamie, you rock man.

Twinfan
10-02-2009, 11:23 AM
Indeed - nice modding Jamie :)

Thomas Hebert
10-02-2009, 11:43 AM
It was intended as a slightly provactive title to catch peoples eye, make them read my initial post, and to promote discussion. If you read my post, which I'll quote below, you'll see it was communicated as a question:

Your post may contain a question, but the title of this thread is a statement.

Twinfan
10-02-2009, 11:52 AM
Of course - it's a headline grabber!

Thomas Hebert
10-02-2009, 12:58 PM
Of course - it's a headline grabber!

Well for me it was not an effective headline. It was a sign that you are pushing an opinion as fact, a rant if you will. For me, it had the effect of discounting anything that you said after the title. Don't try and twist an inflammatory type of statement like 'it sucks' as a starting point for serious discussion. Your opinion was stated in the title. No further discussion is needed. Also, I would say that we don’t need catchy titles to start a serious discussion about PRS guitars in a section labeled Guitars from Maryland at a PRS discussion site. The catchy title angle is post hoc because you are taking heat on it.

I work at a University and I can tell you that it makes a big difference if a student comes in my office and says "I don't understand how you graded my exam and would like for you to explain it to me" as compared to the student that says "your grading sucks." In the first case, I would explain and look for some meeting of the mind between me and the student. In the second case, I would tell the student "your answer sucks" and that would be the end of it. Quite a difference.

If you say ‘the headstock inlay sucks’, then I would simply say ‘doesn’t suck’, you say ‘yes it does’, I say ‘no it doesn’t’…well you see where this will lead us. Back to jr high. Opinions are just that and should be stated as such. Then the old timers will leave you alone.

Twinfan
10-02-2009, 01:58 PM
As a very polite Englishman, with no hidden agenda, I can assure you that I'm not here to stir up trouble. I've been here a couple of years now and thought I'd be seen of a little better.

The Zilmo threads on Neil Young sucking are OK are they? They were acceptable to you? Did you chip in and have a go at him too?

If you don't like this thread, stay away. That's what I do when I'm not interested.

Now, back on topic. It's been a few days and I'm still a bit miffed about the Eagle headstock :p

drzoso
10-02-2009, 02:13 PM
But PRS -did- set a precedent by putting an Eagle on the old 10th Anniversary guitar. Remember this?:

http://pic90.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2270/702387/1177171/324517850.jpg

Plus, they put in on the Artist Limited:

http://pic90.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2270/702387/1177197/335873052.jpg

And the Artist IV:

http://pic90.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2270/702387/1177197/324519081.jpg

So, why not put one on the 25th Anniversary? How is it "watering down" anything?

Also, remember that there was more to the 57/08 guitars than the "special color and quilt". The also had a special peruvian mahogany neck wood.

Just pointing out the "less than" obvious...


Jamie

How do you take such awesome pics?

JMintzer
10-02-2009, 02:16 PM
Jamie, you rock man.

Indeed - nice modding Jamie :)

Aw, shucks... :o


Jamie

P.S. Please post this over on TGP. Over there, I'm the anti-christ... :D

JMintzer
10-02-2009, 02:19 PM
How do you take such awesome pics?

It's all about the pool table... ;)


Jamie

P.S. Nikon D40, a cheap bounce flash and some white foam board as a reflector...

Ridgeback
10-02-2009, 02:21 PM
Holy crap - is it full moon or something?

If it isn't it must be National Pissed-Off Day....:confused::D

wilerty
10-02-2009, 02:27 PM
Holy crap - is it full moon or something?

If it isn't it must be National Pissed-Off Day....:confused::D

Not really. It's just post ExpPRS withdrawl. :(

Thomas Hebert
10-02-2009, 02:33 PM
As a very polite Englishman, with no hidden agenda, I can assure you that I'm not here to stir up trouble. I've been here a couple of years now and thought I'd be seen of a little better.

The Zilmo threads on Neil Young sucking are OK are they? They were acceptable to you? Did you chip in and have a go at him too?

If you don't like this thread, stay away. That's what I do when I'm not interested.

Now, back on topic. It's been a few days and I'm still a bit miffed about the Eagle headstock :p

Didn't mean anything personal. Your join date says 08, so I thought you were new. For the record, I did not post on the Neil Young threads- he's not my favorite, but I like his music.

Carry on with the headstock inlay...

phretbored
10-02-2009, 04:38 PM
And therein lies the problem. I won't be hunting anything down to try out as they just don't appeal to me in any way....

Right on.
If you don't like the current offerings then you don't like them.

PRS is by far my favorite guitar line on the planet but I have been in the same spot as you before where for a period of time they really had nothing to offer that I was interested in.
That is a great opportunity to check out some other guitars.
So I looked around and found some killer Gibson guitars that rocked my world...the Gibson Johnny A Signature the Gibson Flying V Custom.
Eventually PRS started offering more of what I liked though.

Take the opportunity to check out some of the other great builders out there or maybe score an older PRS model that you were always interested in but never purchased.

Ryan32
10-02-2009, 04:45 PM
Right on.
If you don't like the current offerings then you don't like them.

PRS is by far my favorite guitar line on the planet but I have been in the same spot as you before where for a period of time they really had nothing to offer that I was interested in.
That is a great opportunity to check out some other guitars.
So I looked around and found some killer Gibson guitars that rocked my world...the Gibson Johnny A Signature the Gibson Flying V Custom.
Eventually PRS started offering more of what I liked though.

Take the opportunity to check out some of the other great builders out there or maybe score an older PRS model that you were always interested in but never purchased.


Or you can use this time to save up money for more PRSi and when there is something that attracts your attention you can but it or multiple items if there are more than one.

phretbored
10-02-2009, 04:47 PM
Or you can use this time to save up money for more PRSi and when there is something that attracts your attention you can but it or multiple items if there are more than one.

spoken like a true BAMer

Ryan32
10-02-2009, 05:08 PM
spoken like a true BAMer

:dude: minus my spelling error..doh! should be buy, not but. that's typing on the iPhone for ya!!

strumbringer
10-02-2009, 05:37 PM
iPhone posts on BAM... that's some dedication. :D:dude:

jrocguitars
10-02-2009, 05:38 PM
Taking a quick look through the PRS Book shows that Paul's early guitars had the eagle inlay on the headstock. Since this is an Anniversary model, it makes since to me for an eagle to be there.

phretbored
10-02-2009, 05:59 PM
:dude: minus my spelling error..doh! should be buy, not but. that's typing on the iPhone for ya!!

don't you just hate when somebody quotes a typo before you catch it?!
happens to me more often that i care to admit. :o

BrianBaker
10-02-2009, 11:14 PM
The 25th headstock is ok; its not going to sell me, or turn me off. On the other hand, the 10th is a stand out winner. If you could knock them all out of the park, then nothing would be special.

ZAO
10-03-2009, 07:25 AM
The 25th headstock is ok; its not going to sell me, or turn me off. On the other hand, the 10th is a stand out winner. If you could knock them all out of the park, then nothing would be special.
my feelings exactly.