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twitch
07-01-2004, 06:46 AM
Over the past year, I have totally recreated my rig. Started with the purchase of a Rivera Suprema, and for a while, I wasn't using any pedals, and that was fine. As I got involved with a band, I found the need for a chorus effect, and had read so many great reviews on the choralflange. I also always liked a wah wah, so even though the band I was in at the time didn't really give em a need for one, I figured I'd look into that as well. So I got a clyde wah deluxe as well.

After a while with the choralflange, I have found 3 settings I love, and use with a lot of frequency, especially in the band I am now in (which is different than the band I was in when I first got the pedal). I use a pretty traditional chorus setting, a rotary "Leslie" type setting, and a doubling, "FAT" type setting, all three are basically supplied settings in the instruction manual, tweaked a little bit. In the rotary setting, I can get a bit of a trem type effect. I rarely use the flanger settings at all, although for this one Nirvana song we cover for fun (I can't remember the name of it), I have used the flanger sometimes.

The clyde deluxe is a great and versatile wah. My current band allows for a decent amount fo use, and I like the wah-wah in small doses anyway. I basically have two songs I go with the wah, one I use the wah for just solo's, the other I pretty much use the wah thoughout the song, except on the chorus. Best wah-wah I ever had, plain and simple.

I recently took in a deja vibe 2 as well. At first, I wasn't liking it at all, but then I realized I need to use the pedal (it looks like a wah-wah) to get the sound I was hoping for. So I habve to work it with my foot like you do a wah-wah. Actually, there is a setting I use, in combination with the rotary setting on the choralflange, that gives me a nice trem effect, and I don't have to work the deja vibe like a wah-wah in this setting, but it is a very saturated trem effect.

This leads me to the last pedal I need to add, which is a trem effect. I am so happy with the fulltonme effects, I have decided it has to be a supatrem, although I have read good things about some others.

The band I am currently in, I will use a teem effect a lot, and it will reduce the amount of switching around I need to do on my choralflange settings in between songs.

But for me, at this point, it has to be fulltone.

Scott Peterson
07-01-2004, 07:11 AM
I own or have owned every one of the pedals you name.

Fuller makes some exceptionally good pedals, and though some will argue that (someone always tries), there is no escaping the fact that his pedals sound great, work great and LAST.

My Fulltone Wah gets worked like mad; and I have owned it since 1997. Still going *very* strong. Serial #44.

Great stuff!

mick I
07-01-2004, 08:26 AM
I'm with John on this one and I have had many a Fulltone.
The resin concept bad, bad for people who can fix and like to mod....
I just ditched my choral/flange for an Arion (cheapy) chours it sounds much more fluid to me....
On the plus side there are a minor few pedals that are produced by Fulltone I'd use. On the down side very pricey....
Very few pedals live up to the claim for the price and I love effects.
Fulltone makes nice stuff and if I wanted any of it I go used. JMO....
Laters

Stratmeister
07-01-2004, 01:47 PM
I think pointing a finger at Mike for the bad switches is merely a cheap shot. Sure he got a batch of bad switches, as did lots of other pedal makers. That's old news, beat to death, gone, and buried.

Yes I had a switch go bad on my FD II, Mike sent me two replacements and I haven't had a problem since. I have a Fulltone wha, FD2, an old-style DejaVibe, and an Octa-Fuzz on my board all the time, no problems since I replaced the one stomp switch.

I don't think the prices are outrageous, look at the cost of other bow-teek pedals nowadays. Keely Java Boost, Analogman Bi-Comprossor, Way Huge Aqua Puss... There are plenty that cost less, plenty that cost more. You want something that's less expensive? Go get a Dan Electro plastic piece of crap Surf and Turf. You want something built like a tank, get the Fulltone.

I have lots of pedals that I've owned over the years, some famous, some infamous, some are collectors items these days. They all come and go from my board at one time or another. But the Fulltones stay... ;)

darial
07-01-2004, 02:25 PM
I certainly like most of his stuff. A TTE is definitly in my near future.

Aldwyn
07-01-2004, 04:23 PM
Funny this thread came up. I have been shopping Clyde Deluxes for the past week.

Now I am a little sacred to do so. That's all I need is to drop $200 on this box and have it fail on me.

Anyone know the ratio of working/failing switches? I mean, what is the likelyhood that if I buy a used Clyde Deluxe that it's going to fail on me?

Peace,
Aldwyn

mick I
07-01-2004, 07:59 PM
Aldwyn,
If your looking for a supeb wah check TEESE out. Rmc3 has the best options and they work down from there. Musictoyz,ebay, etc. carries em'

As far as the Fulltone line goes the guy works hard to put out a product but imo I paid a little over $200.00 for a Choral/Flange and the switch was plastic and never seemed to want to work right, maybe I had a bad one I don't know. I have looked in to the Danoelectro line cause I can get it for $25.00 bucks and sounds alike.....I have played on a Strat Squire after setting it up that have played just as good as some PRS's I have played. It's all a matter of taste, skill and "quality" It's not about a name on a head stock or a label on an amp.
Just my 2 cents
Laters

SteveK
07-02-2004, 06:37 AM
FWIW, I've been using Fulltone pedals for a while without any problem whatsoever. I have a FD II, and a Clyde on each of my pedal boards, and also a Fat Boost, and Choralflange on my gig board. I also have 2 Distortion Pro's one of which I use with my Blues Jr. that I keep in my computer room. (Going to sell the other DP) Can you tell I like Mike's stuff? ;)

Scott Peterson
07-02-2004, 07:54 AM
Funny this thread came up. I have been shopping Clyde Deluxes for the past week.

Now I am a little sacred to do so. That's all I need is to drop $200 on this box and have it fail on me.

Anyone know the ratio of working/failing switches? I mean, what is the likelyhood that if I buy a used Clyde Deluxe that it's going to fail on me?

Peace,
Aldwyn
Aldwyn,

7 years. HARD use. Fulltone Clyde. No switch problems. Ever.

I have owned a FDII, Deja Vibe, Choralflange, Supa Trem and the Clyde.

Switch problems? Not one.

Don't be scared. For all his gruff manner at times, Mike will back up his products.

Stratmeister
07-02-2004, 08:17 AM
I'll just reiterate, Clyde Wah, FD2, Deja Vibe, '69, '70, SoulBender, OctaFuzz (not all on the board at the same time of course), with consistant use of the wah, FD2, Deja Vibe, and OctaFuzz. One switch had problems on the FD2 during a period where they got a bad batch of switches (as did other manufacturers), and it failed slowly. The switch got "sticky" and hard to push, but did not fail hard. I replaced it, no problems since.

Now notice I did not comment on the resin-covered switches as none of mine are covered. Mine was easy to replace. The switches are made by Carling I believe, who is probably the worlds largest distributor of stomp switches. It is a 3PDT of which there are limited choices. I use their 2PDT's all the time in custom pedals I build for my own use and for friends. They're pretty much the standard unless you use FET-types like in BOSS pedals. I prefer "true" true-bypass in mine.

It's my understanding that the manufacturing of these went to Mexico and I don't know if it was the poor workmanship, untrained operators, or wear from using the old equipment, but there was a period where switches were of poor construction. I think it was in some '01, maybe '02 versions. Not sure about the date range. I've got to believe that the problem no longer exists but haven't bought a new pedal cause my old ones are kicking ass and probably will for years.

If you're concerned drop Mike an email and ask about them. As Scott said, he can be a bit "short", but full of info and I've only found him honest and helpful. Or look on ebay for older versions. Either way, it is a killer wah... and considering the top pro names using them and the fav reviews in this thread, well just make your own decision. And yes, the Teese Picture is also an excellent wah.

Aldwyn
07-02-2004, 09:50 AM
Thanks guys... I'll continue my shopping! :D

Peace,
Aldwyn

twitch
07-02-2004, 10:03 AM
Aldwyn, I went through similar thoughts that you are, when I first was shopping for fulltone products, as I did read some nagative reviews of the products. I think all of them were along the lines of something not functioning properly, nothing about the thing not sounding well. These were pretty few and far between, but they did stand out, as the negative tends to. Strangely enough, one of the claims of fulltone is the durability, so I did find it odd that people had some thigns breaking down on them.

Ultimately, i decide to go through with what I was looking at, and I am very glad I did. All I can share with you is my expereicne, and I would HIGHLY recommend the clyde deluxe wah.

J.LaGrassa
07-02-2004, 08:50 PM
I have had a few of Fulltones effects and never had any Issues with them, I think Mikes pedals are very well made.

LSchefman
07-04-2004, 10:24 PM
Currently on my pedalboard:

Clyde Deluxe
Mini Deja
Choralflange
Supa Trem

Also had:

Fulldrive II (not needed with Two Rock amp)
Deja Vibe (big, sold it when the new small ones came out)
Octafuzz
Distortion Pro
Fat Boost

This over a period of about 4 years.

No failures. No problems. No issues. Everything worked all the time and sounded great.

I do sessions in my studio with clients present. Everything has to work, 'cause my clients expect it! I trust the Fulltone stuff, because it sounds very musically useful, unlike a lot of pedals that sound great in the store, but when you get them home, you can't seem to find a use for them.

Most of the guys who do sessions for me also have a Fulltone or two on their boards. No one ever complains about problems with them. Honest.

I really like their products, everything I record with them just seems to fit nicely.

PS - I've had the Teese wah, and it's great, too. Very vocal, very "vintage".

twitch
07-05-2004, 09:08 PM
Wow Les, great minds (players) think alike! I am seeking a supatrem, and then we will have almost an identical set up.

Hello Kopter
08-03-2004, 03:16 AM
I always thought they had superior build quality but the tone and the effects themselves were only medicore. Kinda like built and wired like a tank but running on DOD circuits.

Just my opinion though.

I've had:

Fulldrive
Fat Boost
Soul bender
Ultimate Octave

Aldwyn
08-03-2004, 11:49 AM
But you still have to like a company where the owner answers the phone...

I just called Fulltone to ask a question about power supplies with my Clyde Deluxe, and Mike answered the phone!

Peace,
Aldwyn

LSchefman
08-03-2004, 09:04 PM
>>I always thought they had superior build quality but the tone and the effects themselves were only medicore. Kinda like built and wired like a tank but running on DOD circuits.<<

Everyone has different taste.

Yours is really unique. ;)

Scott Peterson
08-04-2004, 01:04 PM
I always thought they had superior build quality but the tone and the effects themselves were only medicore. Kinda like built and wired like a tank but running on DOD circuits.

Just my opinion though.

I've had:

Fulldrive
Fat Boost
Soul bender
Ultimate Octave
Interesting opinion, but I dsagree completely. DOD circuits? Huh?

Hello Kopter
08-04-2004, 03:37 PM
I don't mean that literally. I mean that after I have played Klon's, SIB Varidrive's, modified Tubescreamers, vintage Big Muff PI's, Chandler Overdrives, MJM London fuzz's, original Electric-Mistress's, ADA Flanger's, T.C. Chorus's, that the Fulltone products just didn't do anything for me.

The biggest dissapointment was the Fulldrive.

It's been a few years since I owned those Fulltone units. I wouldn't mind at all though to try the '69 and '70 fuzz units.

I'm curious on how the TTE would stack up against my three EP-3's. :)

Hello Kopter
08-04-2004, 05:45 PM
What was wrong with the switches?

Baba
08-05-2004, 06:56 AM
Back on topic, Tim, I'm glad you found a pedal brand that works for you. I have been tempted several times with the Choralflange, but I keep sticking to my Intellifex, and I just found a new chorus patch that sounds pretty damn good!

As Scott says, Good on you, brother!

twitch
08-05-2004, 07:24 AM
yeah, the key to the title of this thread is the last to words, "FOR ME".

I have sionce added a supa-trem, and with the music my band is palying, this will see the lion's share of the work. I may look to move one of the effects, as between the choralflange, the dejavibe and the supatrem, there is some over lap in what they do. And I have yet to use the flanger on anything.

However, these are still pretty new to me, so I am playing around a little, and finding some cool settings.

There are plenty of good pedals out there, I am just really satisfied with every fulltone I have purchased, so for me, there is no reason to look elsewhere.