View Full Version : An idea...Controlled feedback pedal
Pointbreakd
05-21-2004, 10:07 AM
Is there such thing as a controlled feedback pedal? Or is there someway I could do this? Like set up 3 TS9s all set to 10 and then just get a nice controlled feedback and can stomp on and off at will? just a thought
Pointbreakd
05-21-2004, 10:11 AM
isn't feedback as simple as sending the signal back and forth from guitar to amp? There must be something I can make to acheive this
rjmmusic
05-21-2004, 12:14 PM
At one time, Boss was producing a pedal - I think it was called the Super Distortion / Feedbacker - that would generate controlled feedback when you held down the pedal. The pitch of the feedback would be related to the pitch of whatever you were playing when you pressed the pedal. You can probably find these on eBay.
Dash_Doc
05-21-2004, 12:31 PM
Z-Vex Fuzz Probe!!!!! Might depend on your definition of "control" though. I love the pedal you can get some very cool feedback effects using it, but there is a definite mahem quality to the pedal. I'm not sure how in "control" I am when using it.
Pointbreakd
05-21-2004, 05:31 PM
the z-vex is a little out of my price range at like 300 bucks. anyone tried the Boss one?
Peter C
05-21-2004, 05:39 PM
If the Boss pedal is anything like the "Feedbacker" effect on the GT-5, it's worthless. It's not true feedback, just a generated octave note that comes in (the effect allows you to change when the feedback starts, if there's any vibrato, but only comes in at the octave).
Not worth it IMHO
Pointbreakd
05-21-2004, 06:55 PM
ya i read some reviews that generally say the thing sucks.
Pointbreakd
05-22-2004, 10:43 AM
basically I'm looking for some very weird and loud feedback noises which i can shutoff quickly and then hit a high note...I don't know quite how to explain it...like a almost an ambient feedback noise which i can turn off and then exlode back into a solo. I'll drop 30 bucks on ebay and try a feedbacker...i can always just sell it again
Pointbreakd
05-22-2004, 10:49 AM
John,
Do you have a soundbyte of you using the pedal by any chance?
I like the feedback effect in the BOSS GS-10 quite a bit!
You "control" what note feeds back by hanging on to that note longer - sustaining it on the fretboard. Just like you'd want it to.
Of course, you can get carried away and confuse it but that's the nature of the electronic beast.
It won't really do what John Phillips was describing, I don't think - allowing you to set up the feedbacking note as a drone. I'll have to try it. Hide your wives and daughters!
-John
Supasso
05-23-2004, 03:32 AM
A Fernandes sustainer will do exactly what you want. If you dont' want a new guitars/pickup, I suggest you to try an e-bow.
Pointbreakd
05-23-2004, 07:14 AM
ha the ebow looks really cool actually. def different. Does anyone use one?
Yes, I've used an ebow. It really surprises the ear in a pleasant way if you don't overdo it. My bandmates always like it when I play it (I use it very sparingly) but I feel uncoordinated with it (which is another reason I use it sparingly).
I know there are people who have gotten really adept with it but, like anything, that takes practice. But it is a very cool sound.
Actually, it's two sounds by the throw of a switch - one normal which is a feedback of the note you're playing and the other is a one-octave higher feedback of the note you're playing.
-John
Pointbreakd
05-23-2004, 07:35 PM
Went to a store today and tried the ebow. hated it. It just felt too fake for me.
Well said, John. It's the interruption of the flow of playing that makes the ebow problematic.
Plus, you're supposed to be on the neck pickup when you use it, so that's one other thing you have to arrange before you resume playing with an ebow.
But, like I said, some players have mastered all these annoyances and can work the ebow nicely. The little guy in the Soft Boys, I forget his name, uses it quite well.
-John
Supasso
05-24-2004, 07:59 PM
Plus, you're supposed to be on the neck pickup when you use it, so that's one other thing you have to arrange before you resume playing with an ebow. No you don't. It even works on acoustic guitars.
No you don't. It even works on acoustic guitars.
From www.ebow.com...
"The EBow works best with the bass pickup (the one nearest the fretboard). All other pickups should be off. If your bass pickup is closer than 1/8 inch from the strings, it should be lowered just enough to avoid contact with the EBow foot."
Later on same page...
"Only your bass pickup should be on. As you glide the EBow toward the pickup, the volume increases and the tone brightens. For mellow sustain, back away from the pickup."
And still later...
"Position the EBow at least 2 inches away from the bass pickup and slowly glide toward it."
And in the instructions review...
"Most techniques use the bass pickup only. All other pickups should be off."
The bit about the bass pickup - I didn't make it up.
-John
Supasso
05-26-2004, 04:58 AM
I am not sure know why they say that in the website. I do own an Ebow, and it works equally well with both neck and bridge PU's. (With all five rotary positions, I'd say.) It sounds more like a bowed instrument with neck PU, though.
Surpasso...sorry if my post came off as snotty...I was in a bad mood. :o
I think all they're saying is that the ebow works better - it's easier to use - if you use the bass pickup. I had so much difficulty with routine coordination with the ebow that I felt I'd better follow the instructions.
Also, the instructions were printed on a tiny piece of paper in a font size of about .05. So, in acquiring an electron microscope and straining to read them, I guess I retained more of the instructions than I ordinarily would have.
-John
Supasso
05-26-2004, 06:45 AM
No worry. :)
Pointbreakd
05-26-2004, 09:37 AM
cool man. very helpful.
Peter C
05-27-2004, 12:27 PM
the second half is a drone note with a scale over the top, and right at the end I retrigger it on a double-stop and it goes all weird... ;)I stand corrected and apologize if I came off too strong about the effect being useless. That is a *very* cool use of the Feedbacker. The drone thing sounds cool and it's definitely back in my bag o' tricks! :dude:
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