What % of PRS go to Accountants and Lawyers?

[trisonic]

Sorry! Couldn't resist...............:p

Best, Pete.

[TRandy16]

Roflmao!!

[Disco Scottie]

I can safely vouch for four PRSi in my house... they haven't been anywhere near a lawyer or accountant.

Come to think of it, neither have I. No wonder I keep getting sued over bounced checks. :D

[EmeraldQuiltBirds]

You probably keep getting sued over bounced checks for the same reason I do, PRS!!! LMAO

[Brewer]

You forgot dentists...

[bleujazz3]

I'm just thankful I've got a good accountant, otherwise my PRS, etc. would be sold to pay off the lawyer's fees.....so true. :D

[BoyMambo]

lucky nobody said anything about IT guys...

[Gerald Johnson]

....all my PRSi belong to a lawyer!

Gerald.

[Chiba]

Dentists are Drs too :)

3 PRSi here, 2 bolts and a '95 CU22. Not a doctor or lawyer, though I am friends with four attorneys. Only three play guitar though!

--chiba

[Eric Seffinga]

3 out of 4 attourneys are guitarists. :)

-e.

[Jon Silberman]

Of course, I get the joke, and yes, I'm laughing, too (lawyer with 1 PRS that I am)!

However, one could rephrase your thread title as follows and be just as accurate:

What % of PRSi go to people who have both been playing guitar, on average, a very long time -and- have paid their dues professionally to the point where they can now afford the very best?

[aarondavis]

Well, I'm an accountant and I have 2 PRS. But, I was a gigging musician way before I went back to college to get my degree. Being able to play music professionaly was what allowed me to go to school without having a "day job".

[Tom Gross]

How many 45 yr old full-time gigging musicians with more tatoo coverage than health insurance coverage now wish they had pursued the straight gig and were enjoying playing their PRSi in their finished basement?

[JMintzer]

....all my PRSi belong to a lawyer!

Gerald.
And all of mine belong to a Doctor. Uncanny! ;P


Jamie

[Jon Silberman]

Are you saying a "foot doctor" is a "real doctor?" :eek:

:p

:D

[Peter]

One of my PRS has been to an accountant, with a question about how to declare some gamblnig winnings. (It visited an Indian Casino while I was out one weekend).
The other one very nearly went to an attorney, but the case was dropped after it turned out the test gave a false positive.

[JMintzer]

Are you saying a "foot doctor" is a "real doctor?" :eek:

:p

:D
Only if an "EPA Lawyer" is a "Real Lawyer"! :D

Touche!


Jamie

[trisonic]

My Accountant has a better collection of guitars than mine but guess what? None of them are PRS. Is this a record?

Best, Pete.

[grego7]

Are you saying a "foot doctor" is a "real doctor?" :eek:

:p

:D
I love the Seinfeld episode where Elaine is dating a podiatrist. But it's not as good as the one where she's dating the intern who can't pass the boards:

"NO! The answer is hypokalemia. Not metabolic acidosis. D'uh!"


Ah. Good stuff. :D

[Robert1950]

What percent of Porsches go to accountants and lawyers? Same type of question, isn't it?

[Zilmo]

3 out of 4 attourneys are guitarists. :)

-e.
3 out of 4 guitarists use attorneys.

[Jon Silberman]

Only if an "EPA Lawyer" is a "Real Lawyer"! :D

Touche!

Jamie
EXCELLENT!!! I am constantly trying to convince family and friends that I'm not "really" an attorney "like those others" because I'm a "government environmental attorney." Now I have a citation to prove it. Thanks, Jamie! :D

[JMintzer]

EXCELLENT!!! I am constantly trying to convince family and friends that I'm not "really" an attorney "like those others" because I'm a "government environmental attorney." Now I have a citation to prove it. Thanks, Jamie! :D
Sorry...

You're still an 'F-ing Lawyer'... :p :D


Jamie

[Zilmo]

Q: How can you tell if a lawyer is well hung?
A: You can't get a finger between the rope and his neck!

Q: If you are stranded on a desert island with Adolph Hitler, Atilla the Hun, and a lawyer, and you have a gun with only two bullets, what do you do?
A: Shoot the lawyer twice.

Q: What do you call 5000 dead lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A: A good start!

Q: How can you tell when a lawyer is lying?
A: His lips are moving.

Q: What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead lawyer in the road?
A: There are skid marks in front of the dog.

Q: Why won't sharks attack lawyers?
A: Professional courtesy.

Q: What do you have when a lawyer is buried up to his neck in sand?
A: Not enough sand.

Q: Why did God make snakes just before lawyers?
A: To practice.

A command was given to a dog: "SPEAK!"
The dog said in return: "Not without my lawyer present!"

Q: Why is going to a meeting of the Bar Association like going into a bait shop?
A: Because of the abundance of suckers, leeches, maggots and nightcrawlers

Q: Why are there so many lawyers in the U.S.?
A: Because St. Patrick chased the snakes out of Ireland.

Q: What?s the difference between a lawyer and a herd of buffalo?
A: The lawyer charges more.

[philipnz]

All of my PRSi (3) belong to an accountant. They also all belong to a gigging musician

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

i wonder if tag is a lawyer?
i sure hope he's not a doctor.

[JMintzer]

i wonder if tag is a lawyer?
i sure hope he's not a doctor.
He's a 'Lawn Doctor'...

IIRC, he owns a Landscape Company...


Jamie

[trisonic]

How many 45 yr old full-time gigging musicians with more tatoo coverage than health insurance coverage now wish they had pursued the straight gig and were enjoying playing their PRSi in their finished basement?

Quite a few, I expect, Tom (I'm 55 this year).........does an unfinished or part finished basement count? As I've told everyone who will listen to me my favourite place to play at home is the Kitchen. My Wife is Italian so she made sure we have a 20' (almost) square cooking environment. It has the best reverb I have.

Thanks, everyone for keeping this in the good humour it was meant - some of my best friends are Attorneys, I'm still waiting for their discount.......

Best, Pete.

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

some of my best friends are Attorneys...

golly pete, i'm so sorry to hear that.
i'm 50 and have a fair number of tattoos, piercings and one branding and live in canuckville where we have free medical but i still don't have a PRS. neither am i an accountant nor lawyer. clearly, there something missing in my life.

[Chiba]

Thanks, everyone for keeping this in the good humour it was meant - some of my best friends are Attorneys, I'm still waiting for their discount...
The trick to staying pals with your lawyer friends is to have a lawyer that ISN'T your friend to do all that attorney stuff for you :)

Has worked for me so far! My lawyer is one of those mean, mad-dog types that other lawyers hope they never have to face. Sure, he's nice to ME, but ... I wouldn't cross him on a bet.

He is not a guitarist, but he was a Marine Corps fighter pilot. So he was a mad dog before he was a mad dog if you follow me.

--chiba

[rwe333]

How many 45 yr old full-time gigging musicians with more tatoo coverage than health insurance coverage now wish they had pursued the straight gig and were enjoying playing their PRSi in their finished basement?While I realize the humor in the post, let's offer respect to those players 'out in the field' - dedicated cats.
It's a cliche to assume that all musicians are poor and struggling - there's a great many famous and not-so-famous that own homes, have health insurance, etc... Making a solid living, providing for family.
Bigger question might be: if you won the lottery tomorrow, what would you do? Many w/ a 'straight job' might opt for a very different lifestyle, yet for musicians it likely be simply more of the same. ;)
To paraphrase Steve Swallow: "If you want to be a musician - don't - as it's a tough life. If you have to be a musician - great! - 'cause it's the best job in the world".

[trisonic]

golly pete, i'm so sorry to hear that.
i'm 50 and have a fair number of tattoos, piercings and one branding and live in canuckville where we have free medical but i still don't have a PRS. neither am i an accountant nor lawyer. clearly, there something missing in my life.

Ssshhh, I don't have one either.......a PRS, I mean.

I love going to see my accountant - nice guy but he looks like the ultimate nerd. I saw him just before Tax Day (I always deliver at the last minute, it's my version of "Just In Time") and he had on the dark blue suit, incredibly starched white shirt and tie etc., etc. Me White T shirt, jeans and boots. He kept fiddling with his tie throughout. But, seriously :p, he's saved me a whole bunch of dosh over the years. I mean as a Green Card holder I pay taxes through my nose but I can't vote.....whatever happened to no taxation without representation? Withdrawing my taxes was no help.......

Best, Pete.

[gekoman]

Amusing question, I've heard similar ones posed about Harley Davidson Motorcycles. All the same, I'd be more interested to see what percentage were bought by people who are non guitar players that either purchase for asthetic beauty or investment?

As for me, bought mine in '86 with a combination of money I made working as a mud logger in Texas oilfields and some xtra change I got from gigs. (what was left over after the bar tab was paid, haha)

[Troubleman]

Too large!!!!! :D

jb

[CarlWerkmeister]

47.658%

[AaeCee]

Neither, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. Actually, Money Manager. I make mine grow too so I can blow more on guitars. Great motivation.

[BBHollowbody]

Bought my first PRS after saving my $$ delivering food while I was in college.

Now I sell PRS guitars. It has its perks

[drbob1]

Ssshhh, I don't have one either.......a PRS, I mean.

I love going to see my accountant - nice guy but he looks like the ultimate nerd. I saw him just before Tax Day (I always deliver at the last minute, it's my version of "Just In Time") and he had on the dark blue suit, incredibly starched white shirt and tie etc., etc. Me White T shirt, jeans and boots. He kept fiddling with his tie throughout. But, seriously :p, he's saved me a whole bunch of dosh over the years. I mean as a Green Card holder I pay taxes through my nose but I can't vote.....whatever happened to no taxation without representation? Withdrawing my taxes was no help.......

Best, Pete.
Where're you from originally, Pete? Canada or old Blimey? I'm a "legal alien" from Canada, and I wouldn't go back. Taxation without representation hurts a lot LESS when it's 1/2 the taxation!

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

All the same, I'd be more interested to see what percentage were bought by people who are non guitar players that either purchase for asthetic beauty or investment?

i've wondered about the investment angle of the PRS. i see a lot on eBay and i'm a little bit ambivalent about stuff like that. but, they seem to sell for not that great of a loss over 'street price' of a new axe.
with my pleasant experience w/ the mccarty rosewood neck i played excepted, i think i have an inherent problem w/ the PRS gee-tars and that problem is that they may be too good. i dig the character of 'bad' guitars. i like the off kilter intonation and tinny sound of the tele stamped bridge/PUP assembly, the spring reverb of a free floating strat wang bar, the masonite goodness of a jerry jones, the plinky sound of a jaguar tuned up a fourth, etc., and the PRS gee-tars are (seemingly) too well made for my off beat tastes. i DO lust after the mccarty, tho'. it seems like U could just drop a bigsby on there w/ little hassle too.

[tag]

He's a 'Lawn Doctor'...

IIRC, he owns a Landscape Company...


JamieI actually made my start working for "Lawn Doctor" when I was in my teens. :) If I was going to be a medical Dr, it would be a proctologistfor sure. I know, because everyone tells me I have a$$hole written all over my face. :dude:

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

Where're you from originally, Pete? Canada or old Blimey? I'm a "legal alien" from Canada, and I wouldn't go back. Taxation without representation hurts a lot LESS when it's 1/2 the taxation!

ah, but free medical, decent tax rebates for po' folks (or ones w/ good accountants), brilliant tax structure for those that invest their 'surplus', herb laws that aren't really being enforced, the legalisation of gay abortion and three teams still in the stanley cup playoffs make canuckville not THAT bad an option.
sorry, didn't mean to butt in.
i'm just sayin'.

[Crunchyriff]

I must confess to having been a PRSi owner/player for quite awhile. Been playing guitar for 34 years, many of it pro. Sold my '90 Signature Custom to a Japanese Collector, my '87 Metal Special to a fellow musician; & I still have my first PRS- '88 Cu24 that I ordered from the factory in Jan of '88...it's by far the best sounding PRS I've ever come across, IMHO, and that's the only reason I've kept it all these years.

I went back to 22 fret necks, and ultimately, back to Gibson. I've got a '58 Historic LP, Gibson USA LPDC; and a Tokai MIJ '59 335 clone that just kills. (among other guitars)

(ducking behind the monitor...)

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

I actually made my start working for "Lawn Doctor" when I was in my teens. :) If I was going to be a medical Dr, it would be an a$$hole doctor for sure. I know, because everyone tells me I have it written all over my face. :dude:

man, U are one of the more enigmatic characters i've ever run across in web world. gladly, the thing that coats it all in sugar is Ur sense of self deprecating humour. glad to see U here, too.

[Jon Silberman]

I actually made my start working for "Lawn Doctor" when I was in my teens. :) If I was going to be a medical Dr, it would be an proctologistfor sure. I know, because everyone tells me I have a$$hole written all over my face. :dude: People ask me, "Are you a leg, a breast man, or an ass man?" I figure I gotta be an ass man. Everywhere I go, people say, "You're an ass, man."

- apologies to Rodney :o -

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

i like the 'team america' axiom of "there's three kinds of people in the world. pu$$ies, a$$holes and di(ks. Pu$$ies just want everyone to get along, di(ks wanna ƒu(k everybody and a$$holes just end up sh!††ing on everything" and on and on.
brilliant.

[tag]

People ask me, "Are you a leg, a breast man, or an ass man?" I figure I gotta be an ass man. Everywhere I go, people say, "You're an ass, man."

- apologies to Rodney :o - Jon,
You picked up on it smart guy! VERY, VERY GOOD! Great minds and all that.. I just twisted it around a bit as you figured. LOL!!

"I know Im ugly. Just yesterday I stuck my head out the window and got arrested for mooning".

RODNEY RULES!!

[trisonic]

Where're you from originally, Pete? Canada or old Blimey? I'm a "legal alien" from Canada, and I wouldn't go back. Taxation without representation hurts a lot LESS when it's 1/2 the taxation!

Old Blimey! I think you mean "Blighty" - yes born in London. Highbury actually which is why I'm an Arsenal supporter but I bet you won't find many Arsenal players born in London let alone Highbury nowadays. Moved out to just outside Brentwood at 2 years.
I like the England of forty years ago, natural I suppose; whenever I go back once I've had a few meat pies and sausage rolls then I'm itching to get back to the USA. I really like it here!

Best, Pete.

[omikl]

I know where you guys are coming from. I left the UK in January '96, on a 12 month contract with an option to extend to two years. May 2006 finds me still in SE Asia having last set foot in the UK in August '97 and having no real desire to ever return. I couldn't afford to anyhow as I don't own property there. :eek:

[drbob1]

The tax refugee thread hijack! Actually there're several reasons I'm kinda bitter about Canada, but it could be summed up pretty well by saying that Pierre Trudeau succeeded in destroying the basic culture of the country thru the 70s and 80s. The "can do" spirit, the "I'll take care of myself and do anything I can to help out the less fortunate" has been replaced by "the government owes me a living". It's at its very worst in medicine-I don't understand how my classmates can continue to work under those conditions.

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

The tax refugee thread hijack! Actually there're several reasons I'm kinda bitter about Canada, but it could be summed up pretty well by saying that Pierre Trudeau succeeded in destroying the basic culture of the country thru the 70s and 80s. The "can do" spirit, the "I'll take care of myself and do anything I can to help out the less fortunate" has been replaced by "the government owes me a living". It's at its very worst in medicine-I don't understand how my classmates can continue to work under those conditions.

i know that at TGP there's a 'no politics' rule, but i don't recall one here.
here goes.
the great thing about trudeau was that he was a fierce intellectual and the worst thing about trudeau was that he was a fierce intellectual. while i don't entirely disagree with Ur observations about trudeau, i think it's a lot more complex than what U let on. i was just a young teenager during trudeaumania and so some of my thoughts may be coloured by idealism.

by the time that trudeau got elected as PM, tommy douglas had been around for decades (forming canada's first socialist govt. in 1944) and had proved to small 'l' liberal thinkers that it was possible to have a form of democratic socialist govt. that no connotation of ties to the cold a war or 'the red peril'. trudeau was very influenced by socialist thought (perhaps more abstractly so than tommy douglas. TD lived thru the depression and his belief system was galvanised by it. PT came from a a wealthy family and pursued law as a means to an end in politics) and perhaps saw progressive countries in europe that had high standards of living and socialist governments as a better model for canada's future than than the growing imperialism south of the border. the 'quiet revolution' in quebec seemed to provide him w/ hope for change but also perhaps formulated a thought within him that, as many of his former colleagues were pursuing the concept of independant quebec, perhaps what was needed a strong federalist govt. to prevent canada from 'falling apart. of course, being a fierce intellectual, PTs political success was largely built on this idea of selling canadians a canada that was headed to the future. patriate the constitution, finally get our own flag, expo '67, trade deals w/ the U.S. that developed our manufacturing base, reform of divorce law, amending the criminal code to liberalise abortion laws and homosexuality, public lotteries, etc.. it's true that canada was a far different country and went thru a lot of change in the '60s. most of the 'welfare' was done thru churches (something that really seems to have irked PT) and govt. was still fairly small and the budget was balanced and political leaders had a mandate to keep it so.

federal politics in canada was in a rather dark era. diefenbaker had cowed to the americans over the ostensibly 'best jet aircraft in the world' avro arrow and had all of the prototypes dismantled. we were at the forefront in world aviation and this absolutely devastated us. we lost some of our most brilliant minds when they then moved to the U.S. to continue working for the U.S. military industrial consortiums. dief 'the chief' was a dying trend in political leaders in his pedantic rhetoric and was replaced by the same sort of leader in pearson. i must say, that in debate w/ these old style leaders, trudeau was absolutely w/o mercy. he could argue circles around them (smart guy) and had an arrogance about him that spoke to many canadians. this arrogance was predicated on the assumption that the old ideas weren't gonna cut it in a canada headed to a bright future and infused w/ the attitude that "i can't believe that U could be SO stupid as to try and sell canadians this same old bag of tricks. canadians are FAR smarter than that". and indeed, many intelligent canadians found trudeau to be making very valid points. trudeaumania was born.

PT, as PM, began an onslaught of political and social reform in canada. the changes were sweeping. because he was a 'smart guy' he tended to ignore anyone that had differing views and so his changes tended to be unmitigated by anyone that presented a 'larger picture' view. the october crisis was a test by fire for him and out of that grew the official languages act. he followed it w/ a move to centralise and nationalise decision making thru the privy council, the treasury board and the public service commission. during the early '70s we were beset w/ the energy crisis, which threw a spanner into the works of social reform. wage and price controls were implemented and PT tried to 'spend' our way out of the economic crisis that the western world was in. the parti quebecois being elected in '76 with a mandate to form an independent quebec exacerbated the economic crisis.

on into the '80s PT seemed focused on constitutional reform to the exclusion of the growing inflation, growing unemployment, HUGE federal deficits and an eroding standard of living. it seems as if his love of socialism was, indeed, more abstract than practical as the lives of average canadians was compromised and it seems we will never again see the standard of living we had in the '60s. the truth is that the whole world was deeply affected by the energy crisis and the ensuing economic turmoil. some didn't do so well. the U.S. chose a course of big business to the exclusion of the middle class. some did not so bad. many european countries pursued democratic socialism, stringent energy conservation and fiscal responsibility. canada endured a time of profound change. on one side, our future generations were sold out to a huge national debt and on the other side we birthed the patriation of a constitution. hindsight is always 20/20.

we can only know what we have today. we will never know what things would be like if the status quo had persevered and the old-school politics of rhetoric (yes, yes, i know. still too much rhetoric) and cowing to the growing intervention of an imperialist neighbour to the south. perhaps if we had continued on that path we would already be annexed to the U.S., much as austria was to germany in the '30s. we'll never know.

all of this begs serious debate. it's clear that many of the points (facts?) that drbob makes are true. canada (hopefully) is still in a period of transition and the story ain't over yet.

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

sorry for editing the post. i didn't check my spelling enough.

[Zilmo]

i know that at TGP there's a 'no politics' rule, but i don't recall one here.
.
Best check the rules again.

[Dan Desy]

Where're you from originally, Pete? Canada or old Blimey? I'm a "legal alien" from Canada, and I wouldn't go back. Taxation without representation hurts a lot LESS when it's 1/2 the taxation!
+1!! :)

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

Best check the rules again.

doh!
my bad.
i DID read the blurb when i registered, but i don't recall reading it as the BaM code of conduct.
mods, please forgive me and feel free to delete my post as appropriate.

[Dan Desy]

doh!
my bad.
i DID read the blurb when i registered, but i don't recall reading it as the BaM code of conduct.
mods, please forgive me and feel free to delete my post as appropriate.
I'm not sure if Canadian politics count ;)

[JMintzer]

I'm not sure if Canadian politics count ;)
Plus the post was so long, my ADD kicked in after the 1st paragraph.

Did it say anything bad? :p


Jamie

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

Plus the post was so long, my ADD kicked in after the 1st paragraph.

Did it say anything bad? :p


Jamie

i sure hope so.
after all it's CANAJUN politics.

[JMintzer]

i sure hope so.
after all it's CANAJUN politics.
AH! Well, there you go!

BTW, Yes we do have a 'No Politics' rule, but since you're new here, it'll only cost a little... :D


Jamie

[drbob1]

Oops, my bad, no more politics I swear. I'll now go slink off to some other, less savory forum ;)

[BrianBaker]

Plus the post was so long, my ADD kicked in after the 1st paragraph.

Did it say anything bad? :p


Jamie
ditto, from an attorney with lots of stuff.

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

ditto, from an attorney with lots of stuff.

funny, some of my bandmates have the tendency to have their eyes glaze over when i expound, too.
damn!

[RickC]

What percent of Porsches go to accountants and lawyers? Same type of question, isn't it?
I think you actually have to be able to drive to buy a Porsche, don't you? :)

/rick

[Robert1950]

I think you actually have to be able to drive to buy a Porsche, don't you? :)

/rick
Yes, you definitely have a point there. ;)

[philipnz]

I'm a PRS playing accountant/gigging muso but i'd sooner go back to playing a LP than drive a porsche

http://www.hartal.co.nz/pf.jpg

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

I'm a PRS playing accountant/gigging muso but i'd sooner go back to playing a LP than drive a porsche.

whoa, that's Ur ride?
man, where do U put Ur gear when U have a gig?

[philipnz]

I did use it to go to practice once. Squeezed in a guitar, keyboard, keyboard stand, PA desk, bag of bits and a matchless DC30. It was tight

[µ¿ z3®ø™]

didn't effect the handling one bit, eh?