JBL D120F Fender twin re-cone

[irwcustom]

Hi,

I need a recone on a JBL D120F speaker. I got quoted £139 + VAT @ 17.5% just for the parts on this. So that's a cool $292.74 just for the parts - before labour! :eek: I really don't want to write it off as it's one of two (naturally). The labour price wasn't too bad. So I was just wondering if there is anybody who could point me in the direction of who sells spares for these in the US (or elsewhere) and it I would be better off buying the spares myself. It's an origonal gold signature series one. The part number is C8RE120 I think. though C8RD120 could be it.

Hope somebody can help.
Thanks.

[irwcustom]

thanks for the reply jda. I don't know who you mean about the possible kits, but it would be great to give them a try if you have any info please. The orange frames came after the 'gold' label grey basket ones. I'm not 100% sure what year the orange ones came in though. '65 was the first year they were avaiable on a twin as an upgrade. I have an Oxford in at the moment - the two do sound great as a mix - the JBl's are quite bright / mid-range - but they are quality and an ideal match IMO.

[green]

www.abrown.com (http://www.abrown.com) .......they do Santana's altecs and have hempcone speakers

[Hoochiecoochie]

JBL does not make the original cones any longer, or so I have been told. They are using the E series cones as direct replacements but there is a visual and a sonic difference (Some of us can not hear the difference and others say it is night and day.) I had a reference to this discussion from about a year ago having trouble locating it at the moment. Some reconer in Chicago supposedly had some original cones available $$$$$Pricey. The E series cones are/were about $150 each. Constant price increases at JBL, so this may be old info now. Labor is about $50.00 each. JBL will not sell cones to consumers. Here is the link to JBL for the parts. I also believe that the E series is or has been discontinued. So it shouldn't be too long B4 those parts dry up. list. http://www.jblproservice.com/navigation/Transducer%20Replacement%20List.html .

As stated above, Webervst uses his own materials. You may want to check out his forum for feedback. ( http://www.webervst.com/recone (http://www.webervst.com/recone/) ) .

Here is another indpendent http://www.simplyspeakers.com/reconing-jbl.htm

Always, contact the reconer about what types of parts they useoriginal or after market.

Good luck.

[irwcustom]

Thanks so much for the reply chaps! So kind of you - I like it here:) ! I contacted Orange County who also confirmed that JBL don't sell directly to customers - though surely a re-coner could sell you a kit. I thought something was up with the part number having the E in.


John, that would be so good to get hold of the contact info - I would be so greatful - perhaps we can put them in as a pair? This would mean I could get a re-cone for under £100. The actual fault is 'voice coil' drag or rubbing. This means it is physically distorted - oval and not sufficient clearence. I did wonder whether it might be possible to take the Al dome off and try to sort something with the theory of nothing to loose. this speaker is better condition than the other one in the twin which had several small tears to the cone. I actually managed to save it by PVA (polyvynyl acetate) glue - which dries fairly clear and flexible. It sounds great - so I must have done something right!

Thanks for the info Hoochiecoochie also - I'll check out all those links. I've heard that the E series sounds nothing like - but tries to emulate the D series.

It would be a great shame as I have a pair - though the numbers are quite different. I have yet to find any evidence of dating via these numbers - appart from gold - mid to late 60's, orange - 70's.

Thanks also Jda and Green.

The amp sounds great btw, but after 1/2 an hour, I get crackles. Think it's to do with the phase inverter circuit. Just been measuring values tonight of components, voltages etc. a bit off spec, though the phase inverter is 'ballenced' - should make for a clean amp basically. I think the plate load resistors are the first thing I'll change and then I may not get arrested by the 'vintage police' - should i sell it. It's a difficult fault to track down.

[irwcustom]

The amp sounds great btw, but after 1/2 an hour, I get crackles. Think it's to do with the phase inverter circuit. Just been measuring values tonight of components, voltages etc. a bit off spec, though the phase inverter is 'ballenced' - should make for a clean amp basically. I think the plate load resistors are the first thing I'll change and then I may not get arrested by the 'vintage police' - should i sell it. It's a difficult fault to track down.
For anuyone interested, I changed the two .1 F capacitors in the phase inverter circuit for a matched pair of Orange drop spragues and also the two plate load resistors. thes are as important - if not more so that having matched tubes. If this part of the circuit isn't right, then matched tubes are a complete waste of money. It sounds as quiet as a mouse - until you strum your guitar that is ... DDDrrrrrrang! what a beauty - Clean is mean:dude: